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Old May 10th, 2013   #11
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Known Issues

Premature windshield operation failure. Expensive to fix. Used parts not recommended.

Believed to be caused by fitting an oversized windshield and then operating when traveling at high speed.

Or maybe just a lot of operation at high speed.

Clean and lubricate at regular intervals and raise and lower at low speed for longest life.

Wouldnt someone like the OP like to see this in a sticky maybe before having a problem?
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Would be helpful.
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Old May 10th, 2013   #13
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Known Issues

Premature windshield operation failure. Expensive to fix. Used parts not recommended.

Believed to be caused by fitting an oversized windshield and then operating when traveling at high speed.

Or maybe just a lot of operation at high speed.

Clean and lubricate at regular intervals and raise and lower at low speed for longest life.

Wouldnt someone like the OP like to see this in a sticky maybe before having a problem?

To be brutally honest and risk what will surely be seen as a attack on a forum member I do not want you determining what is at issue with this motorcycle.
This repeated alarmist postings need to end.
I can see no real contribution in any of this.

Sorry but this need to end.

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Old May 10th, 2013   #14
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Default Re: Windshield Binding

It is a non -critical part that wears out. Depending on maintenance and conditions of use, sometimes sooner, sometimes later. As the bike is fully functional without it, this is exactly the kind of thing that I want to have wear out first. My close following of this issue indicates the failures are not 'premature'- in fact they cause such angst because they usually occur after Honda's generous warranty expires.

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Known Issues

Premature windshield operation failure. Expensive to fix. Used parts not recommended.

Believed to be caused by fitting an oversized windshield and then operating when traveling at high speed.

Or maybe just a lot of operation at high speed.

Clean and lubricate at regular intervals and raise and lower at low speed for longest life.

Wouldnt someone like the OP like to see this in a sticky maybe before having a problem?
Just post your post and if the quality is so stellar that it merits elevation to a sticky , it could happen. Whining about what you think should be a sticky is a sure way to make it not happen.
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Default Re: Windshield Binding

I think there is a very easy fix to this problem if you do it before the motor gear fails. I have a 2003 non abs and I installed the windshield kit myself. It worked fine for about a year and then started to chatter going up or down. Lube didn't help for long. I decided that the black nylon slides are too tight a fit in the "U" slide channels. I sanded these little blocks on their sides so that they move freely in the channels. Nothing but smooth operation for the last seven years and I can't remember the last time I oiled them. I adjust the windshield a lot. Think I will oil them tomorrow!

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Just post your post and if the quality is so stellar that it merits elevation to a sticky , it could happen. Whining about what you think should be a sticky is a sure way to make it not happen.
Hmm maybe. Im not sure I can write it. I dont really know enough to make a complete sticky. I could make an outline others could add to. It could be a group effort. On my own I dont know enough to make a finished piece. But theres a lot of knowledge that all the members of the forum have that could be set down and when the dust is settled edited into something usefull to a lot of people.
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I think there is a very easy fix to this problem if you do it before the motor gear fails. I have a 2003 non abs and I installed the windshield kit myself. It worked fine for about a year and then started to chatter going up or down. Lube didn't help for long. I decided that the black nylon slides are too tight a fit in the "U" slide channels. I sanded these little blocks on their sides so that they move freely in the channels. Nothing but smooth operation for the last seven years and I can't remember the last time I oiled them. I adjust the windshield a lot. Think I will oil them tomorrow!
See this is what Im talking about. Ive never had any problems with my windshield so I havnt taken it apart and experimented. But OldWingit has. If we can make a list of the "issues" the ST13 has (five way ground connection, thermostat failure, throttle snatch, etc then match them up with people who have fixed them and brought it all together after digesting everything we could write a nice little book.

We need to identify the "problems" ( I dont want to scare anyone here! ) then match them with people who have worked on them and have come up with solutions. Then we need an editor to put it all together.
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First off, I think one of the biggest "problems" is that you keep calling them "problems". They're not problems, they're just things to be aware of.

Look, every mechanical device will wear out over time. It's simple. It's how it is. The better you take care of your machines, the longer they'll last. There's no mob out to get you, there's no great corporate trick trying to take you in. Not everything is detailed in the maintenance section of your little handbook. They literally can't write a book that thick and expect to sell it.

Of course, the things you do to extend the "life" of your machine are important, and it helps to have a list of things to monitor. Some things you have to use common sense to keep going. Like lubing the bits that need lubing. If you want to start a list like that, go ahead. I'll applaud your efforts.

But don't start off by listing them as problems with the ST. Start off by saying they are problems you caused by your failure to maintain properly, and here's the cause/fix.

....oh, wait....we have a section like that. It's called Maintenance & Repair.
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Old May 11th, 2013   #20
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"Problems" was in quotation marks which is significant.

I dont think its accurate to say the defective from the factory five way ground (which was recalled) or the thermostat sticking open are lack of maintenance related.

Those things would fall into the catagory of things to look for when buying an ST13. The ground can be verified as fixed by a punchmark on either side of the VIN on the right side of the steering head frame.

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